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blinknfgsumgirl - December 13th, 2009 12:47 AM

What does this company think they are! I will tell you what they are! They are a company who is so unconfident in themselves that pry at young high school and college students! I don't know why I didn't see that at the interview! I was SCAMED!
I have a few points to make about this problem.
First off, I was called imediately after applying for this company. I did my weekly job search as normal for the past few months. I saw this company listed as Vector under yahoo hot jobs. Second, the job listed claimed they would pay 16.75 per hour. Little did I know it was false advertisment. Anyone from Vector that disagrees is wrong. He changed the pay at the interview to 16.75 per appointment. How come?
Third, out of five applicants only one of us looked to be in an older age group. The four younger looking applicants were picked to be in the second interview. I was one of them. I was excited and scared all at once. My instincts were telling me that it was wrong.
Fourth I got called the minute I walked in to my house. Weird enough for you? It was the call I wanted not because of the money but the success stories they claimed. What they don't state is their failure stories. After accepting the job I excitedly told everyone. After I was hired on my friends told me it was a mistake and that they were a victim as well. I was told it was a scam, and I researched imediately. This site was fifth on the google search for Vector Marketing.
What I want Richard Brown to know is that I am making a stand! He can take this job and info pack and shove it! I don't need this job. He pissed off the wrong woman! This has to stop!


pyrestriker - January 28th, 2010 10:09 AM

I myself got pulled into their scheme. Selling CUTCO knives here in Vegas. Their "office" was labeled as a mortgage company on the outside. And it wasn't until near the end of being there for 1 1/2 hours that we get told "Oh, and after the third day of training we want a $175 deposit for your demo knife set." I don't even make that much on my Unemployment per week. What makes them think I can afford to do something like that? Also, knowing that I don't drive, and I don't own a car, and that I have to go alone to people's houses to show off really sharp objects? Yeah... Not for me. Too many unknowns there. I'm shocked that I even stayed there for that long. They couldn't even get things straight from paper to posterboards to speech.


cedwards12345 - February 3rd, 2010 3:49 PM

i my self am a cutco sales rep, with my experience so far i have found nothing wrong with vector marketing. i get my pay checks at the end of the week. the one thing that i have seen in reading these comments is that they make you pay for the kit first, but the thing is that you are not buying the kit your putting down a DEPOSIT. i mean when you rent a boat at a lake u put down a deposit and no one complains about that. the only reason they ask for a deposit is b/c they were losing money by just giving them out. and second the pay is $16.25/appointment that u make (and if u look at the adds it does say). and cutco has been doing this sense 1949 so if they are "scamimg" people then someone is retarded.


Goat - April 10th, 2010 1:24 AM

Not a scam at all. It's a job that's not for everyone but make no mistake, if you drink the cool-aid, you can make money.

I made $8K over the summer going into my sophomore year of college selling CUTCO. You can actually sell the knives b/c they really are legitimately high quality cutlery. I'm 32 now and I still have the homemaker set and then some (basically the biggest set they sell).

This is not a job where you can dip your toe in the pool or wade in slowly. If you don't just jump in and follow the program it seldom works. You have to do the entire presentation for every appointment and legitimately ask for referrals. If one just goes through the motions hoping for the $16 per presentation then a job as a knife salesman is most likely not a good fit.

I'm aware it's quite cheesy but if you don't work the program it won't work for you. I haven't worked for Vector in over 10 years but I sold a rack of those knives and learned even more while doing so.

I do realize that the ads they place that say $16/hr can be misleading for someone looking for a 9 to 5 hourly position. With that being the case I can also see how the application/interview process would be a waste of time. But again, it's not a scam.

By the end of the 3 years I worked for Vector I sold over $35K worth of knives and was making 50% commission of what I sold. If I sold one $50 knife I just made $25/hr. If I sold a $500 set I just made $250/hr. I don't care what you say, that's nuts.

It's understandable that selling knives might not be a sought out profession for most but one thing Vector is not is a scam.


Honest Experience - May 26th, 2010 5:38 AM

at pyrestriker

Yes it is a $152 SECURITY DEPOSIT. its fully refundable. there is no scam. i mean, ok, i was told $16 an hour at first too. but when they said an appointment is about 45 min. to an hour. that is basically the $16 for the hour.

at Goat
I understand everything you mean. i just barely got into the job. i got the call, the interview, and the recruiter was honest. He usually lets everyone pass the first interview. the group interview lets them know the best of the group. the way they present themselves, if they are really interested, the attention they put. a more visual understanding.

at edwards12345

Same with you. Congratulations on your successful work experience, i am waiting for my first day of training in order to give myself a great experience with people.


Bottom Line: Vector Marketing is NOT! a scam.
It is just a low key company that is understood to have past employees that felt that they did not enjoy being in the company, therefore decided to spread negative feedback towards the company, leading to a topic of discussion on a website that has many spams and scams. Which it should not be listed.

Thank you those who have helped others understand what Vector marketing is about, and hope that others may read this and others writings and experiences to completely understand what Vector Marketing is as a Company.


vector_rules - June 6th, 2010 9:16 PM

Anybody who thinks Vector is a scam is an idiot. That includes whoever made this site. I will be a junior in college this fall and I will be making 10,000+ dollars this summer. If you don't make money off this job, its because you are lazy and don't actually do any demos. The SECURITY DEPOSIT you put down on the product is 100% refundable and the training is free and can be put on a resume in the future. Maybe you people should actually try going through with the job before you make outrageous accusations about the validity of this company. And whats wrong with offering a job to people who don't have any experience? Would you rather work at a gas station your whole life? Get your facts straight people.


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vector - June 15th, 2010 4:27 PM

I have worked for vector for over a year and have made plenty of money also sounds like you are scared of older people out performing you. Oh well your loss more money for me. by the way I have never had so much fun on a job in my life. This is a awesome oppertunity if you are willing to go outside your comfort zone. Also I have never seen it advertised for a hourly position it is always per appt. Good luck on your job search.


jstone - June 26th, 2010 3:34 PM

First of all, I find it very interesting that you only post negative comments on the tops of these forums, knowing full-well that most people will only read a little bit of information on any given internet page.

Second, Vector Marketing, in no way whatsoever, is any sort of scam. I have researched this company fully and have found no hint of a scam. The reason most people assume that it is a scam is because it seems to good to be true.

I saw a comment about how people generally don't make money with Vector. I do not necessarily agree with this, but I don't disagree either. The reason for this is becuase the majority of people who go through the training decide not to follow the program that Vector teaches in its training program. Most people decide to try their "own thing" despite the fact that Vector has done extensive studies and number crunching to find out what actually works. Their program, if followed, works incredibly well.

I also saw a comment saying that Vector judges its customers, or discriminates against "a single mom who lives in an appartment." This is just simply good business practice. It is not discriminatory in any way. Has no one ever heard of a "TARGET MARKET?" EVERY single successful business has a target market that is is geared towards. Vector has found, through its 60 year history, that certain things work, and certain things do not. This is simply being smart with business.

If people follow the program and show the products to the target market, they will succeed without a doubt.

I also saw a comment about how someone has to invest money into the company before getting paid. Doesn't every business operate that way? Don't you, in a corporate position, have to dress a certain way? Who pays for the clothes? Certainly not the company. In a restaurant, servers must purchase a uniform in most cases, as well as any other supplies they wish to use (aka pens and such). The fact is, no matter what business you are getting involved with, starting requires investment.
Vector is no different. The money is simply a deposit, however, which means that if for any reason a person chooses to leave Vector, they can return their kit and get a 100% refund at ANY TIME.

There is no doubt in my mind, nor should there be in anyone else's mind, that this company is a solid investment.


jstone - June 26th, 2010 3:37 PM

All I have to say is wow.

If you look carefully at the ad you applied to, it says a $16.75 BASE RATE OF PAY. Where in that statement does it say anything about an hourly wage?

This is exactly the kind of person that gives a great company a bad reputation. You didn't pay attention to what you were applying for, and then you got mad when you found out it was something other than you ASSUMED. Get over yourself and stop badmouthing an amazing opportunity.


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Mertain - July 24th, 2010 5:04 PM

My son got caught up in this scam. I've been a litigation paralegal for 20+ years. I printed your article out and wrote a note on it for him to take to his "boss". What I wrote on there was regarding your Addendum. The letters and/or emails your are getting from "salespeople" who claim Vector Mktg. is the best thing that ever happened to them...or who are defending the company are, in fact, PAID EMPLOYEES who have been hired soley for the purpose of scouring the internet and looking for artices JUST ike yours, so that they can write rebuttals to it. Check out ANY article that is bad pubicity for Vector and you wil start to see a pattern to the rebuttals. They are all the same.

As for my son, we live in a state where there are definitive laws to prevent these very scams from happening, and I intend to use these laws to argue our case in court.

Additionally, Vector Marketing is a pyramid scheme, by federal legal definition. Pyramid Schemes are, as I am sure you are aware....ILLEGAL IN EVERY STATE.

After Vector lures kids in, they then promise them that they will get a commission on every person they can get to come to work for them. What they DON'T tell them is that they don't get one red dime until those people sell $1,000 worth of merchandise.

Their salespeople don't even make a cent until they have sold $1,000 worth of merchandise!


Mertain - July 24th, 2010 5:10 PM

My son got caught up in this scam. I've been a litigation paralegal for 20+ years. I printed your article out and wrote a note on it for him to take to his "boss". What I wrote on there was regarding your Addendum. The letters and/or emails you are getting from "salespeople" who claim Vector Mktg. is the best thing that ever happened to them...or who are defending the company are, in fact, PAID EMPLOYEES who have been hired soley for the purpose of scouring the internet and looking for artices JUST like yours, so that they can write rebuttals to it. Check out ANY article that is bad pubicity for Vector and you will start to see a pattern to the rebuttals. They are all the same.

As for my son, we live in a state where there are definitive laws to prevent these very scams from happening, and I intend to use these laws to argue our case in court.

Additionally, Vector Marketing is a pyramid scheme, by legal definition. Pyramid Schemes are, as I am sure you are aware....ILLEGAL IN EVERY STATE.

After Vector lures kids in, they then promise them that they will get a commission on every person they can get to come to work for them. What they DON'T tell them is that they don't get one red dime until those people sell $1,000 worth of merchandise.

Their salespeople don't even make a cent until they have sold $1,000 worth of merchandise! All this after they have "purchased Vector's Sales Kit". If that's not a pyramid scheme, then I don't know what is.

When my son got to Vector's "office"....it was al locked up and no one was there. So I called his "boss" and got her answering machine, left her a message....and surprise, surprise....she hasn't called me back.

The next step for us is to file a lawsuit...and that we most definitely will do!


Goat - July 24th, 2010 8:41 PM

Mertain,
I love it when attorneys make statements with such certainty and confidence and then it turns they have no idea what they're talking about.

I worked for Vector over 10 years ago so contrary to your claim, I am not "a paid employee scouring the internet." This topic caught my eye while I was researching a company called Certified Payment Processing for a friend (CPP does look pretty shady by the way).

I'm not sure how focused you were while reading my post but I'll reiterate. Vector is not for everyone. It's probably not even a fit for most kids looking for a typical summer job. However, it's not a scam.


Dania123 - October 11th, 2010 2:17 AM

it's realy.maybe i should have more suggestions


darkalbel - October 20th, 2010 5:28 PM

I am currently working in Vectors marketing and everything i read and have seen seems true, im paying the kit little by little per paycheck and the training was free but i think theyre trying to change it up alittle so no one suspects im staying in just for the time being so i have money to get me by until i can find a reasonable job, but so far im stuck, my manager complains i have no referrals and not that many appointments and i explain my reasoning for pushing them into buy even though they say we dont (BS) thats when the part of the Demo is when i say "YOU DONT HAVE TO BUY ANYTHING, CAUSE I GET PAID JUST TO SHOW" then theyre relieved and i just do it talk for abit leave and there goes some cash in my pocket. I admit that the knives are nice and all but ive cut myself multiple times and the safety is suppose to be better i think id take that off im basically the cook at home so im cutting all day and ive never cut myself until i purchased my own to see. I dont recommend this for anyone due to stress but if your desperate which makes me look dumb but i took it for some cash on the go but its not worth it here just becareful of them they are tricky thats how they first got me...


th_1992 - December 2nd, 2010 8:04 PM

First of all, the reason why it was "hourly" rate of pay is because when we post it on websites there is no other option, AND the appointments typically last 45 minutes to an hour. And also, you don't know if the older person declined the job offer as this happens often in the office I work at because older people tend to believe that sales is not for them. If this HUGE company that is growing daily is a scam, then why is it not out of business by now? People believe anything they read online..


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